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Poster: drspark61 Date: Jul 24, 2009 12:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: 1977 recommendations

I know this year gets a lot of love, but it's never been one of my favorites for reasons I can't really explain. The sound? The jams? I don't know. My listening tends to 72-74, 89-90, 68-69, and 83-85, in about that order.

Currently, there are a lot of Oct. '77 shows up on etree, and it's got me to thinking that maybe I should give this era another try.

Aside from 5/8 and 5/9, both of which I have, what are five must-have shows from this year?

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Poster: shorthopper88 Date: Jul 24, 2009 4:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

dicks picks 10 (new years show, dont remember exacte date) and 29( two May shows) will blow you away.

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Poster: wineland Date: Jul 24, 2009 2:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

Set 2 of 5.4.77 is one of my favorites. It's one disc that stays in constant rotation in my car cd changer. I think this is the best source:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-05-04.sbd.miller.91970.sbeok.flac16

For a fall 77 show I would track down 10.2.77:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-10-02.sbd.cantor.gmb.86354.sbeok.flac16

10.29.77, 11.1.77 and 11.4.77 are great picks as well.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-10-29.sbd.miller.92085.sbeok.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-11-01.sbd.miller.82574.sbeok.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details/gd77-11-04.sbd.unknown.2595.sbeok.shnf (For some reason this is downloadable, including the lossless files. The files under the "192Kbps MP3" column are the shn's.)

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Jul 24, 2009 2:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

i always liked this st.paul show> http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-05-11.sbd.miller.83196.flac16 and richmond >http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-05-25.sbd.miller.87591.sbeok.flac16 >>> http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-06-09.28614.sbeok.flac16 enjoy!!~

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jul 24, 2009 1:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

5/13, an almost-perfectly played show:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd77-05-13.sbd.miller.9393.sbeok.shnf

And let's not forget 10/29 (known in some quarters as "Grendel's Choice"):

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-10-29.sbd.miller.92085.sbeok.flac16


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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jul 24, 2009 1:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

Thank you DrSpark for bringing the archive back from--and TO--the Dead!

'77 is by far my favorite year. Here are my recommendations.

1) Do not miss 10/29/77. It is my all-time single favorite show. Here's my review for why and link to a great source recording:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-10-29.sbd.miller.92085.sbeok.flac16

2) 4/23/77 is a stand-out because if there's one complain you could make about '77 it's that the set lists are pretty uniform. (A nitpicking point since the performances are so stellar--who cares?) But 4/23/77 is both an A+ show performance-wise AND a ridiculously generous set list. How many '77 shows contain amazing SCARLET>FIRES and HELP>SLIP>FRANKLINS and a scorching GDTRFB...This is just one of those shows where the band was clearly in take-no-prisoners rock-out hard mode and never lets up. Pay oarticularly close attention to the FRANKLINS TOWER. Great BERTHA as well, if I'm not mistaken.

3) As was mentioned above, I think the 5/13/77 show deserves a lot more attention. Contains a top 3 all-time SCARLET>FIRE and many clean, killer versions of other tunes, inc. a blistering SAMSON.

4) 6/9/77 is probably the best of an amazing Winterland run. Hard to argue against the HELP>SLIP>FRANKLINS being an alltime best. All around masterful show.

5) It's hard to pick just 5 shows, but to round out this list I'd check out yet another May show (throw a dart, really) that gets overlooked a lot and that's 5/18/77. A really solid show with a beauty of an ESTMATED>EYES and lots of first set gems including a nice JACK A ROE and a picture-perfect MUST HAVE BEEN THE ROSES.

Honorable mentions could go on forever but I'd also suggest 5/17/77, 11/1/77, 11/6/77 (just for the HALF STEP alone), and if you don't have it already the Dick's Picks of 12/29/77 which contains the year's only CHINA>RIDER and maybe the best NFA they ever played.

Enjoy 1977! and thanks for posting about THE GRATEFUL DEAD!

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jul 24, 2009 1:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

hee hee... posts crossed. And "grate" minds do think alike... :D

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jul 24, 2009 1:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

So THAT'S why my ears were burning ;-)

Just listened to 5/13 yesterday. Love that S>F!

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jul 24, 2009 1:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

Yeah! When someone asks for a good S>F recommendation, I always steer them in that direction... :)

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Poster: buscameby Date: Jul 24, 2009 3:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

I have to recommend my first show 10-9-77 McNichol's Arena.

Killer Scarlett/Fire and a awsome Terrapin. And wouldn't wanna Casey Jones for their first encore, especially a RIPPIN one!

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jul 24, 2009 5:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

I want to second the recommendation of Portland 10/2/77 as a "must have" from this year.

1977 isn’t my favorite year, but when it comes to playing at a high level night after night with no major dropoffs, I do think it’s probably the most consistent year the Grateful Dead ever had (although a strong argument could be mounted for 1972). I’ve never heard a weak show from 1977, something that I definitely cannot say about my favorite year, the brilliant but certainly more erratic 1970. But it is this consistency that makes it hard for individual ‘77 shows to really stand apart from one another. Was that 5/22 or 5/26...oh…it was 6/9?

So why do I think 10/2 is a keeper? Outside of the great performance (a given), three things:

1. The absolutely pristine sound. Great sounding Betty Boards abound from this year, but this might be the best one of the lot- to the casual ear, it’s virtually indistinguishable from an official release.

2. The set list. In an era known for somewhat restricted setlists (by Grateful Dead standards), this show truly offers a change of pace, featuring not one but two noteworthy breakouts ("Casey Jones" and "Dupree's Diamond Blues"), plus "The Wheel", "Truckin'" and "Let It Grow", each of which was pulled out 12 or fewer times out of over 60 dates played in 1977.

3. The attitude. The ‘77 precision is here, alright, but there’s just a touch more rowdiness, a little less “just exactly perfect” and a little more oh-fuck-it-let’s-just-play that gives this show an edginess that I think is missing in a lot of ‘77.

10/2 really breaks into the “best of ‘77” discussions normally crowded by the usual suspects (5/8, 5/9, 6/9, 9/3, 12/29, etc), but I really feel that any collection of prime shows from this year is woefully incomplete without it.

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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Jul 24, 2009 3:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

Don't recall hearing one I *didn't* enjoy, but these are the ones I play most often:

1977-02-26 Swing Auditorium
1977-05-04 Palladium, NYC
1977-05-08 Barton Hall
1977-05-09 Buffalo
1977-10-02 Paramount Theater
1977-12-27 Winterland

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Poster: ganges Date: Jul 24, 2009 2:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

Go explore 77, amazing year! I agree with all that has been said so far, also:

04-30 is outstanding for me (download series)
10-16
11-02
12-30

I just listened to 04-25, unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a good source for this, or does anybody know of one? A very very fine show IMO.

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jul 24, 2009 5:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

edit note: i needed to come back to this for more detail, etc.)

Beyond 05-08-1977, which even for most finicky deadheads is a top 5 1977 show...05-09-1977 is good but not top 5 or 10...

09-03-1977 my favorite show of the year. Half-Step, They Love Each Other, Peggy-O and Music should be on any "best of list"...the second set smokes, Eyes in particular, one of the best versions out there in a year filled with great Eyes (see 10-29 and 11-05 for 2 other top shelf versions)...He's Gone is nice but NFA jams on forever...a great stand alone Truckin' and Terrapin encore...this one is Dick's Pix 15, here is an aud source

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-09-03.aud.wagner.minches.91650.flac16

06-09-1977 is top five, Winterland huge Help>Slip>Franklin's...Estimated is awesome and the segue into St. Stephen's is ridiculous...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-06-09.sbd.john-dauria.1409.shnf

10-29-1977 is top 5 and possibly top 3...Let it Grow, Estimated>Eyes, St. Stephen...no need to go on, check out Grendel's posts on this show...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-10-29.sbd.miller.92085.sbeok.flac16

10-02-1977 is a great show...first set has Dupree Diamond Blues and Casey Jones revivals, second set is extremely fluid...Scarlet>Fire is great, nice fusion into Fire...some of the best mutron pedal licks from Jerry you'll hear...Playin' is quintessential Dead drift...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-10-02.sbd.cantor.gmb.86354.sbeok.flac16

from there it's a toss-up between the following: 02-26-1977 (debut of estimated, terrapin, but the highlights are sugaree, deal and playin),
06-07-1977 (monster terrapin>morning dew), 10-11-1977 (offical release, "called a 'primal' dead show by Dick Latvala, a bit sloppy but huge slipknot and monster let it grow...,
12-29-1977 (dick's pcks), china>rider revival

03-20-1977 is a pretty damn good show...

03-18-1977 has the only full live Terrapin Station (rest of show is slop city)...

the first week of November offer some nice shows, in particular 11-05-1977 (another dick's picks)

see, that was easy...have fun!




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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jul 24, 2009 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

Just a p.s. that Stratocaster is one of the first posters I got recommendations from back in the day, and he has NEVER steered me wrong.

So clearly you've got a lot of listening to do!

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Poster: wineland Date: Jul 24, 2009 2:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1977 recommendations

I second Grendel's ode to Stratocaster. PurpleGel and Dr. Flashback are others reviewers to follow their recommendations.

I should have mentioned in my other post on this thread that any May show is worthy of downloading. The June 7-9 Winterland shows are worth the price of admission. 9.3.77 is another good pick.

Enjoy your journey through 1977.